Possible to delete "paid" collection accounts?

Submitted by dragon79 on Thu, 01/29/2009 - 00:40
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I have a bill that went to collections and was paid in full the moment I even realized it was on my credit (I was not informed it was even going to be on my credit). For 67 dollars. Its been a year and it says PAID on it, but is still affecting me negatively. Is there a way to get this deleted? There is no information on this account, nothing. No open date, nothing. The place says something like "00006y7"...that is the name that is on the collection account. Just the amount is there stating paid.

I have been there, I have a few that are going to fall off next year, I paid them off and they have continued to affect me negatively for a long time, I have tried everything and nothing has worked. I am hoping that someone comes a long with some good advice on how to do this. I know I have to deal with this for at the least another year.

Thu, 01/29/2009 - 03:22 Permalink

Even if you have paid off the debt, it will stay in your credit report for seven years and six months as "paid" and will be listed as negative in your credit report. To remove the negative item from your credit report, you should have made the creditor agree to pay for deletion agreement and that too in writing before you pay off the debt. This is because after the debt is paid in full, the creditors have no incentive to remove it from your credit report.

Thu, 01/29/2009 - 06:51 Permalink

No, it is not possible to remove "paid" from your credit report once you pay off the debt. It will stay there as negative and affect your credit score. All that you can do to improve your score is to improve your credit history. $67 is not a big amount, but since it is listed as negative, it will lower your score.

Thu, 01/29/2009 - 12:40 Permalink

If you know the name of the person or company you had this debt with maybe you could contact them and let them know you paid it as soon as you saw you owed and ask for removal. Chances may be that they won't remove it but you never know until you try.

Thu, 01/29/2009 - 16:06 Permalink
edy (not verified)

How many points does a paid collection account gain you when you pay it off versus when it showed as not paid collection account? I am trying to figure out if it makes your credit score higher?

Thu, 11/05/2009 - 02:14 Permalink

edy,
welcome to the forum, I am not sure that Paid raises your score any, I know from experience that it stays in the negative column and that you will still be questioned on them when you apply for credit, it is a bit frustrating. I paid off four accounts and all they did was update the status and they stayed in the negative column, it done me no good to invest the money in paying them off in this aspect, the only thing it did was stop the collection calls which was a big relief. I am not sure that it raised my score at all.

Thu, 11/05/2009 - 03:15 Permalink

What goodnatured says here is true. It really does not get you points to have an old debt updated as paid. We also had an old debt we paid off a while back and every time we went to the bank, even though it was the same one, they would inquire about this debt.It was understandable why they were asking and we were always prepared to answer them. Sometimes bad stuff beyond your control happens and if someone can not understand that then they must have lived a perfect life.
Billy, If you are looking for a Pay for deletion letter I believe there is one under letters of credit on this site. It should be a long the side of your screen.

Thu, 11/05/2009 - 20:00 Permalink

Great advice fireyone, I did not know about pay for delete when I paid mine off.

However, what if they were sold and are reported under a few different companies, I have some that are the same debt, that show transferred a few times before I had the money to pay them off. The last company that you are dealing with is the one you would be paying off, they don't have the power to remove the original creditor or the other collection agencies entries on your report, so the negatives would be there except for one company right? and then it would just show transferred, where if the one you paid leaves it on instead of pay for delete at least you can show you paid it, right??????

Fri, 11/06/2009 - 11:50 Permalink

Hi goodnatured,

Great question. There was someone else asking the same question on here. And I had no idea how to handle it. Because I guess pay for delete wouldn't be an option for the other collection agencies because they wouldn't be getting any money. So I was thinking they couldn't be removed. Even though it is a paid debt.

Fri, 11/06/2009 - 13:17 Permalink
Joshin (not verified)

This is a great thread... One more important question.

What exactly is the date that starts the timer on the 7 year long discrimination for a paid collection/charge-off?

Does the clock start ticking on the date that the collection account was purchased by a 3rd party or does the clock start when you pay off the debt? If both, does the latter reset the clock?

Mon, 12/21/2009 - 20:45 Permalink
stacy (not verified)

i have credit card debt... i have been turned into collection... i paid the collection agency... Question the original credit cards will continue on my credit report (neg.)... So i should have never paid because it will still be on credit report????

Tue, 01/12/2010 - 23:23 Permalink
joshin (not verified)

Stacy - if you pay your collection account without arranging with the company that owns the collection to remove the item from the report then yes, it will remain there hurting your credit score for 7 years. I learned the hard way.

So demand, and get in writing, that the item be removed from your report as part of the terms of your payment.

Fri, 02/12/2010 - 22:13 Permalink

For the record I have gotten many paid collection account off my credit report with 623.

dispute with cra
send 623 letter
whine and complain to regulating agency.

Sat, 02/13/2010 - 12:37 Permalink
zaynesmommy (not verified)

Just wanted to let you know that when you pay off a debt it raises your score 30-70 points depending on the debt. I found this out through one - investigating online and two- talking to a creditor. The only way to take it off is to dispute it after its paid and sometimes they won't respond since it is paid and it will automatically be removed or have it in writing that they will remove it once it is paid. If it is not removed, even though your credit score has been raised, it may still affect you in getting loans, etc because it will still be on there as an adverse account , it will just have a zero balance.

Wed, 02/17/2010 - 01:06 Permalink

Hi zaynesmommy,

As far as I know, credit score does not increase by any fixed number. Increase of a credit score depends on various factors like the payment history, for how much time you had been delinquent on the debt, the amount of the debt and so on. So nobody can say that a score can increase by a definite amount.

Wed, 02/17/2010 - 10:00 Permalink
Joshin (not verified)

Cinnamngirl: What exactly is a 623 and where can I fine the template? I looked through your links and could find no reference to 623.

Thanks again

Sun, 02/21/2010 - 23:22 Permalink

Hey cinnamngirl:
Can you please explain what a 623 is? I searched your links but I could not find any reference to a 623 template/form.

Thanks,
Josh

PS sorry for the dualpost.. I didnt realize I was in as a guest again.

Sun, 02/21/2010 - 23:48 Permalink

Hi jmiller,

623 dispute is a form of dispute done with the information furnisher, generally the collection agency. Generally, a credit card company retains record of a customer only for 13-18 months. So, if you ask them to verify something regarding that account, that has been there before this period, they won't be able to verify those. In that case, they are bound to remove the negative information from your credit report. This is known as the 623 method of dispute.

Mon, 02/22/2010 - 12:49 Permalink
marg (not verified)

before i found out about the pay for deletion letter, i paid a collections account. Then i disputed it with the credit reporting agy. and they deleted the negative. the company was afini try it and see

Thu, 04/29/2010 - 20:53 Permalink
Valeryvix (not verified)

what is 623 letter? Can you send me a link plz?

Wed, 06/30/2010 - 15:00 Permalink

How would I dispute my paid old collection bills with the credit bureaus? would I send debt validation letters? what kind of dispute letter would i send them? this is for medical bills that were paid through the insurance eventually...

Thu, 07/01/2010 - 02:47 Permalink

I would write directly to the trade line furnisher whether collection agency or original creditor and ask them for records or proof of what they are reporting.

Thu, 07/01/2010 - 10:18 Permalink

I will try contacting the collection agency...I assume it will be a good idea to send them certified post? I have trouble finding the contact info for some of the collection agencys but hopefully I can remove these three negatives from my account/....

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 00:59 Permalink

Send the letter to the address written on your credit report by cmrrr.

do you have a printed copy of your credit report?

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 11:38 Permalink

I do have a printed a copy of my credit report...It has been a little difficult in seeing the contact info on the collection agencies...I will keep at it and try and get them removed from my credit report...Thanks = )

Mon, 07/05/2010 - 01:42 Permalink
candyky (not verified)

Has anyone had any sucess with pay with deletion working. What tacticd did u use to get them to do it. Thanks guys!

Fri, 08/06/2010 - 05:09 Permalink

there is a link to PFD in my signature. Basically it is about how strong the CA case is for your debt. if they have no evidence then they should delete. if they have some or alot of evidence but don't want to pay to sue they might PFD or settle

Fri, 08/06/2010 - 10:47 Permalink
suitelady79 (not verified)

I have one paid collections account that has been reporting since 2007. This account claims that I've paid however I've never paid on that account, I've actually submitted this through bankruptcy. Should I let the account sit as a paid collections or request deletion since account has not been included in bankruptcy.

Sat, 08/28/2010 - 12:54 Permalink
MykaelSimone (not verified)

There is a VERY simple way of getting paid collections removed from your credit report. PLEASE do not think it's not possible. If you've paid your collection and the item remains on your report, go to the credit bureau and dispute the item that has been paid. It's a good chance that the collection agency has purged your record and therefore will NOT verify a dispute investigation from the credit bureau. If the credit bureau doesn't receive verification from the collection agency in thirty days, they are obligated by law to delete the item from your credit report.

This is the only recourse to get paid collectons removed, but totally worth a try. Especially entries that have been on a report for years. This works 90% of the time and the percentage increases the older the account gets. GOOD LUCK!!!

Fri, 03/11/2011 - 14:28 Permalink
Jancob (not verified)

You can actually write a letter to the creditor, keep a copy and receipt from you fax. You should definitely call and get a name to send it to before (c/o) and call that person back after to make sure they received it. Once they have acknowledged receipt, note the person's name and time and their phone extension (if available). Call once a week, for three weeks and check their progress. If you hear nothing or receive nothing within a month, contact CRA (Equifax, Experian, and TransUnion) and let them know what you've done and the outcome. This is essentially what your fax should ask: (1) For proof of the date the account was opened; (2) For proof of the date the account became delinquent; (3) How many billing cycles it was delinquent; (4) When the delinquent account became current and/or paid off? If they do not have dates and proof of these things, you can get them knocked off of your reports by the CRAs. Good luck!

Wed, 06/06/2012 - 07:35 Permalink
susie (not verified)

I have a judgement in my previous (married name) that was improperly served 6/2009. Is it best to first write directly to the lawyer w/default judgement and ask for validation of service of papers to what address and so forth or go to the court pay the money to try and get it dismissed?
I also have a few collection accounts in my previous name, when writing letter of validation request should I just put my previous name or my current legally retaking maiden name?

Sat, 06/16/2012 - 15:00 Permalink
R.M. (not verified)

I had like 4 paid collection accounts (3) were less than $100 and (1) was like around $500.. After about two month I'm happy to say that atleast two were magically removed. I must say had I knew about the pay to delete letter before hand I would have asked the CA to agree to remove accounts before I paid them off..Your never to old to learn a lesson lol.. I was also told that paid closed accts. stay on your credit report for 7 years...Lucky me I guess...Have faith... anything is possible

God Bless

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 01:16 Permalink
Anonymous (not verified)

You write a letter asking them to remove it. I used a sample from credit repair for dummies.

Wed, 05/15/2013 - 04:39 Permalink
MonteyJay (not verified)

I had 7 collections accounts on my credit report (from my "young and dumb" days. I eventually paid them IN FULL, not SETTLED. There were no agreements to have accounts deleted prior to me paying them. I wrote them a letter. I sent that certified mail so that I knew someone had received it. Within 2 months (or less), 6 of the 7 accounts "disappeared" and I started getting letters informing that accounts were deleted. ALWAYS keep those letter for AT LEAST seven years after removed. My credit score went from very low 600's to today 710 in a short amount of time. Although I cannot promise this will work for you, it's worth a shot and it's cheap (postage was the most expensive).

I've included a template and I hope this helps. Good luck!

Sat, 05/25/2013 - 15:50 Permalink
Becker (not verified)

What happens when the account drops from your credit score? Do you have to pay or can you just forget about it?

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the military, Which remains sound political force in Myanmar, Sentenced seven soldiers to 10 years in prison with hard labor in April her or his roles in the massacre.

The two journalists have won numerous online awards for their reporting. lately, They were named along with other journalists as Time magazine's Person of the Year for 2018.

interior Myanmar, while the Rohingya are a largely detested minority, the response has been at times less favorable. The two have been accused of betraying the and labeled as traitors.

A small group of fellow journalists and activists has staged periodic protests and is constantly on the call for the release of Wa Lone and Kyaw Soe Oo.

"It is not just that they're in jail, shown Maung Saungkha, A poet and acting director of Athan, An activist group that advocates for freedom of reflection. "It is the press freedom of the us that is in jail.

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