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fireyone
Joined: 26 Feb 2008
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Fri Sep 12, 2008 2:49 pm
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| How old is your debt? They are not allowed to harass you in the way they have. Hopefully you will consider stopping back and letting us know what the atty said. Someone else around here is sure to find the info helpful. |
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goodnatured
Joined: 03 Nov 2007
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Mary
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Sat Sep 13, 2008 10:44 am
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Hi a2sad
You should not provide your checking account number. First you should pull out your credit report and see whether the debt they are demanding is in your credit report or not. If it is not in your credit report, then it may be that the SOL and the seven year listing period has expired. If it is so you need not repay the debt back. However, if you find the debt listed in your credit report, you should ask for debt validation by certified mail. Until and unless they validate the debt, they cannot bring judgment against you, even if they sue you to the court. |
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erb1953
Joined: 31 Dec 2007
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Sat Sep 13, 2008 11:25 pm
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| True they have to validate before they can sue you. |
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goodnatured
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fireyone
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Mon Sep 15, 2008 1:09 am
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| I was just thinking about you on another post Gn. does the atty's take into account their image? You always hear abolut people reporting to the BBB and other places and how companies have really bad reps. Suppose you had one of those companies and if and when you did go to court you alos had this info along with them not validating. Wouldn't it put extra icing on the cake? |
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erin
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Subject: Burgess law
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Tue Sep 16, 2008 6:00 pm
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Hello Everyone, sorry to hear that you all are experiencing these scumbags!
My husband received a phone call today from Burgess, and as a result of our interaction with another attorney in Buffalo (Vincent Cignarale) we didn't answer the phone and immediately Googled the name and #. Of course, we knew instantly that they were on the same level as the Vincent once we found all of the websites, posts and complaints about this so-called law firm.
I am from Buffalo, and am familiar with the streets that they claim to have offices on. I've even sent family members (usually my retired father) to check out the addresses. Also, another wonderful aspect of Google is to look up the addresses with maps.google.com and look at the 'street view' to see if the neighborhood is residential or commercial and it always turns up a very remote residential area or doesn't exist at all. I know folks are working out of their homes these days, but every single office that is listed? huh? If you can even find it.
As my husband did before with Cignarale, we will respond to the Burgess vermin with a letter asking to provide:
> Documentation of any and all papers that bear my signature connecting me to your claim
> Documentation of your calculations on your arrival of the amount owed
> Documentation to whom the money is owed
> Documentation of your right to practice law in the State of New York
We sent that letter along with another letter to:
New York State Office of Attorney
Grievance Committees
Eighth Judicial District
438 Main Street, 8th Fl
Buffalo, NY 14202
Office of Attorney General
The Capitol
Albany, NY 12224
As well as the Attorney General in our state.
They stopped calling, and another firm from FL contacted us, and we sent the same letters out. Never heard from them again. Now Burgess is calling, but we have no fear. These guys are crooks!
Do not be afraid to stand up to these guys, we have rights and they will do whatever it takes to scare you into paying. You have the right to see documentation of their accounting, your signature (and contract) stating that you owe them the money and their right to practice law in the state they are in. If they refuse to send it (which they always do), they are not a legitimate company!
I feel so sorry for the older folks who don't have the internet and aren't able to find out information like we can today.
Good luck to all that happen across this page! |
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erin
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Tue Sep 16, 2008 6:03 pm
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| And I forgot to mention when you are sending out your letters, send them certified, registered or FedEx, however you can track the letters is best. |
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fireyone
Joined: 26 Feb 2008
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Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:41 pm
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| Unfortunately Erin they will probaly keep passing this debt so my advice for you is to keep copies of the letters on your computer and just change the address to the current company that holds the debt. |
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1002543
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Wed Sep 17, 2008 3:07 am
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Never talk to collection agency.
Never provide any financial information to CA.
Send D/S letter with CMRRR and request all information in writing. Keep paper trail.
If you are willing to pay, send money order. |
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goodnatured
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fireyone
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Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:55 am
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| Isn't there a way they get bank info regardless? I have heard on the forum of creditors dipping into peoples bank accounts without their approval and then the person having to fight to get their money back. If it is a debt collector and not the original creditor I can n ot understand how they come across such private, secure info to do this. |
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erin
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Subject: Burgess law
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Thu Sep 18, 2008 2:27 pm
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| thanks, fireyone! i have all copies of the letters, and will keep fighting the battle with these guys. |
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fireyone
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Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:21 pm
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That is the spirit. I wish you the best of luck. I know dealing with these collection agencies can be very stressful. When I moved I got the number of someone who had disconnected their phone over collection agencies. I had them calling here nonstop even though I explained I just moved to this area and the person they were asking for no longer owned this telephone number.
They would never believe me. That on top of one of my own collection calls brought many stressful days. Hope you can get all this resolved . |
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My Turn Now
Joined: 22 Nov 2008
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Subject: Tired of their abuse
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Sat Nov 22, 2008 1:53 am
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We have done some time consuming research and came into some interesting information that will be landing on the hands of several federal law enforcement agencies.
If you are willing to add your name to the list just reply to this email. We are mad and upset that we have been taken by unscrupulous people like Douglas Burgess. |
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