can ca report debt to CRAs without a dunning letter?

Submitted by CMBV22 on Sat, 06/14/2008 - 03:14
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I have a CA that called by home on the 3rd of June. The only information that passed between myself an dthe CA was that ll communication was to be via USPS and I would be requesting DV. I then sent a DV letter the next day via cert mail informing them *Zenith Aquisitions* that during our first communication on the 3rd no information was exchanged other than my request that no calls be made to my home/office and that a formal letter requesting DV and to CND phone calls would be mailed the next buisness day.

So, on 6/4/08 I sent a DV letter to them via cert mail. They signed for it on 6/9/08 at 12:13pm. That same day they placed a derogatory listing on my husbands CR. They also called my home on 6/11/08 informing us that if we didnt take immedaite action they would have to pursue more aggressive actions.

I made a complaint with the FTC that they called me at home after my written CND letter was delivered and I intend on disputing the negative listing on my CR as I have not recieved one piece of written correspondence informing me of who the OC is, what the debt amount is....ANYTHING!

Now I want to go to the local court house on Monday and file suit. Do I have a strong enough case?

If the CA calls again, you may have a case. For all you know, the CA could respond by alleging that the call on 6/11/08 was just to inform you that the CND letter was received.

You are required to be sent a letter within 5 days of initial contact (6/3/08). If you do not receive one soon, you may have a case...but I doubt that at the present time, you have much of a case at all.

Yes, a CA can report to CRA without a dunning letter. If you've sent a DV letter, then the CA needs to validate or remove the debt from the CR.

Sun, 06/15/2008 - 01:47 Permalink

i did send a dv letter. they signed for it the day they dropped this a-bomb on my cr

Sun, 06/15/2008 - 03:33 Permalink

I made a HUGE stink with the FTC, BBB and CRAs and got the listing removed. I then gave them a couple hundred to go away and guarentee in writing I'd never hear from them again

Tue, 07/08/2008 - 04:25 Permalink

That really stinks when you pay for delete and they do not follow through. Did it take a lot to get them to comply? Which of the three actually work better, the bbb, FTC or the Cr?

Wed, 07/09/2008 - 03:00 Permalink

NO the complaint to the BBB really motivatd them. After it was filed all I had to do was make one phone call and I had the PFD agreement mailed to me the next day via priority mail

Wed, 07/09/2008 - 06:03 Permalink

Good for you, glad that it happen so quickly for you. I was not aware that the BBB worked that aggressively for a consumer, I usually use the attorney general office, but maybe I should give it a shot through the BBB. Thank you for sharing this information, I am sure it will be useful to many.

Thu, 07/10/2008 - 02:54 Permalink

I was pretty shocked also! I really only put in complaints with them b/c I wanted to have a huge list of complaints to send to them. Out if the 2 companys I sent comaplaints to the BBB about both have respinded and are really owrking to make me happy.

Thu, 07/10/2008 - 07:14 Permalink

Whatever works huh? Did the credit reporting agency then contact you to let you know that the item was deleted?

Thu, 07/10/2008 - 15:42 Permalink

I have gotten reports back from the credit reporting agencies, usually they will say either updated or remains the same. So yeah, you do get some type of result back from them.

Sat, 07/12/2008 - 03:11 Permalink

They did inform me of the deletion but, that was only b/c I had dispute the info with them. They do not normally inform you of each change unless you have disputed it or, they feel it might be some kind of ID theft

Sun, 07/13/2008 - 01:47 Permalink

wow I never thought of using the BBB. Wonder if it would work if you have people calling due to getting their phone number. This has been a constant pain for me. Soon as I got this # when I moved it has been a hassle. I have weeded alot out with threats but still a couple still call. I know their co. names could I call?

Sat, 07/19/2008 - 18:25 Permalink

you don't even have to call, you can go on their web page and file the complaint right there.

Sat, 07/19/2008 - 22:00 Permalink

Yep, you can put all the details in the complaint form and they act pretty quickly on it.

Mon, 07/21/2008 - 02:51 Permalink

I found that all of these companys seem to do what gets them $$. If a bad BBB report keeps customers away then, they will fight to keep it in good standing

Wed, 07/23/2008 - 08:36 Permalink

Well it is good that someone has the power to keep them on their toes.

Thu, 07/24/2008 - 00:14 Permalink

I agree with you goodnatured. BBB is the place where all CAs and credit repair agencies try to keep themselves in good records. This is because it is widely accepted that BBB provides the most unbiased information about a company. Getting a BBB Accreditation is also not a very easy task for a company until and unless they meet the desired standards.

Thu, 07/24/2008 - 07:46 Permalink

That is what I heard. BBB is unbiased so going their and checking up on a company or reporting one is good to be able to do.

Fri, 07/25/2008 - 00:33 Permalink

It is always good to have an outsider monitoring things, it keeps us on our toes.

Fri, 07/25/2008 - 03:02 Permalink

Yes and I think we need one here. Did you see all thpose aggravating posts from the credit repair poster. Ya know the one about 10 yr. old bankrupsy? I never read further than that. It annoys me.

Sun, 07/27/2008 - 01:04 Permalink

Yes, BBB gives an unbiased information about the collection agencies or the credit repair agencies. I think that one can always rely on a BBB accredited business. Consumers can also file a complaint against a credit repair agency or a collection agency if they have any bad experience with any business. There are many parameters based on which BBB rates a business as satisfactory or unsatisfactory.

Mon, 07/28/2008 - 10:07 Permalink

I think that more people should reply on these fraudulent companies. At least some of their power would be taken away from them and leave room for the good honest companies who will actually help a person out.

Mon, 07/28/2008 - 15:11 Permalink

right on fireyone, we have the tools right at our finger tips and so many people are unaware that they are even there, it is sites like this and word of mouth that will get the information out there to more folks.

Tue, 07/29/2008 - 01:59 Permalink

Yep and the more people that do it the more jun collectors we could weed out. You would think in todays world of credit they would have some kind of education on this. A add from BBB on tv oe something that says before you sign up for this or that come to our website and check them out. You see places like dateline or the today show doing specials on drug use, child porn, and other very important things. They need to do a special every once in a while on avoiding the dangers of credit cards.

Tue, 07/29/2008 - 12:15 Permalink

LOL "Next, on to catch a debt collector"

I know what you mean fireyone, that just popped into my head and I had to share it!

Wed, 07/30/2008 - 20:34 Permalink

Another thing to wish for..kind of like wishing away bad credit huh?

Tue, 08/05/2008 - 02:24 Permalink

yeah, like they say wish in one hand and ............... in the other and see which one fills up quicker, LOL

Tue, 08/05/2008 - 02:28 Permalink

I know the answer to that one, even though I don't like it.

Tue, 08/05/2008 - 02:29 Permalink