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#m.tator - Says,

Our bank took $824.06 out of our account without informing us or having permission. They brought the loans from Washington Mutual which went bankrupt. We had a account there four or five years ago in a different state and don't believe we owed the bank anything. When we spoke to our bank they couldn't even tell us anything to prove we actually owed this amount. They brought the loans from Washington Mutual which went bankrupt. We had a account there four or five years ago in a different state and don't believe we owed the bank anything. When we spoke to our bank they couldn't even tell us anything to prove we actually owed this amount. Our money feels like it was just stolen. And all we get is the run around. Our bank said they would send us out a statement and we would need to tally it up and see if the amount was correct. Or even if it was true before we could dispute it. Just because they brought the debt does that give them the right to just take it from our account without notice. Just when we needed to pay our mortgage. And we were both just layed off. And if they are wrong about the debt or the amount, are we just out of luck unless we get a lawyer. Which I'm sure they know will cost more than what they took from us. So is this a lose lose situation because it's a big bank? Is this legal? Can we do anything?
#cinnamngrl - Says,

It can be legal if the account is owned by the same bank as the loan.

Is this CHASE? I would report the situation to the Office of the Comptroler of the Currency.

#Oscar1987 - Says,

this happened to me with BBT bank, I was not able to do anything, after speakin with my attorney i was told i was not able to do anything. in the fine print when you open the acct it says that any debt can be withdrawn from your acct. so they "technacally" did it with your permission b/c you gave them an ok when you agreed to the terms and conditions
#sdchargers_63 - Says,

How can a bank take that MUCH, out of your bank account, without giving you SOME kind of explaination? Is there a Manager, of the bank, you can talk to? Or...did the bank give you some kind of paperwork,..a contract...on what you owe and why you owe it?
#cinnamngrl - Says,

it might be legal as I have said if the checking and loan are the same bank but that doesn't mean the OCC can't help.
#sdchargers_63 - Says,

I'm unclear about something here. Was the lender at the same bank where your bank account is? Did I mis something in the original post?
#Aaron - Says,

Hi Oscar,

If you owe money to the same bank where you have an account, the bank can take the money to pay the loan. You shouldn't keep money with the same bank to whom you owe.



#mel - Says,

Chase states that they have the right to take money from your account if they determine that you owe money from a previous account from Bank One, Washington Mutual, etc that they now own. They claim that this is legal because on one of about 30 something pages of their disclosure policies you agreed to this when you opened your account. However, they do not verify the information nor do they tell you that they are doing this. They claim that they don't have to notify you. I think it should be illegal for them to take money without verifiying and letting you know where your money is going. We had this happen also on an account that was more than five years old and information not verified.
#highwaymadness - Says,

they havent taken any money from me but a few years back someone actually used my card and over drafted my account by $947 plus they took like $5900 i put out an investigation so that the money would be returned i never received anything and cant open an account... i went to chace they cant find it i went to a few banks they all soy i dont owe... but i still cant open an account what can i do????
#Aaron - Says,

Hi highwaymadness,

Pull a copy of your credit report and check the status of this account. Can you give more details on this? More information is needed to help you in your problem. You should also talk to the bank about opening the account.



#Kay25 - Says,

This actually happen to me today.. I checked my account and it was in the negative I was trying to figure it out because I just got paid yesterday. Chase told me over the phone my money went to another account I owed, I didn't understand so I went to a local branch and the woman told me I owed WuMu back in 2007, I told her I paid it off she said there's no record.. So basically they cleaned my account out and left me in the negatives and there's nothing I can do about it. This should be illegal because I'm one of those who never carry cash and I have no money until next pay day which is two weeks away!
#Aaron - Says,

Hi Kay,

This is unauthorized withdrawal. You should talk to the bank about this, and request them to give you copy of the withdrawals. This should not be done over the phone. You should go over to the bank, and show them copies of your payments, and request them to put an alert on this account. File complaints with the State Attorney General. You can even sue WaMu for this.



#tinkle - Says,

Generally bank can not do it without your permission. If you made any any agreement then they can. Just check did you sign on any agreement if yes then read it's terms & conditions.
#trick - Says,

This is illegal. No bank can do so. Talk to bank authority if they don't return money then you can take legal action against them.
#Papa Madd - Says,

This just happened to me as well yesterday. Chase cleared out my account based on some WaMu account debt they bought that apparently went through 3 different debt collection agencies before chase bought it. They said according the the TOA I gave them permission and it sufficed as notice for them to take out these funds. When I opened the account I actuall asked about this, and the banker told me it had to do with loans through chase itself as well as overdrafting on a chase account. She said nothing about chase being able to by debt that may or may not be valid from debt collectors.

I'm very angry about this whole thing. I mean I have been in very good standing with my bank since I have opened this account. You think they would want to keep their customers instead of robbing them blind. I never even recieved notice of the initial debt the bank is claiming I owed to WaMu. This is completely rediculous and it seems like they are doing this regularly to their customers.

If at all possible I think it would be great for everyone who has had this done to them contact the BBB and OOC. Then possibly see about getting a class action lawsuit against Chase/JP Morgan for unjust and unfair actions it regularly engages in against its customers.

#Aaron - Says,

Hi Papa Madd,

I think you should read the terms and conditions of the original contract once again. Moreover, it is better to clear all these kind of confusions before you sign up with a credit company.



#nicki - Says,

So Today I got a letter from my bank stating they took 250 out of my account and put it towards my car payment with out my permisson when I was only. 85 dlq I'm so pissed right now i where do they think they can just do that!I also had direct tv do the same thing 3 weeks ago for r318 and my bank new this and now they do it is there anything I can do
#careless - Says,

I just opening up account with chase bank I'm a single parent with 3 kids homeless and was trying to save money to find me some where to live with my kids 2days ago I deposit cash in my account with chase bank and yesterday I went to the ATM to withdraw money to get my kids something to eat it said my balance was 0.00 so I call the bank they said that I owe wa mu and that why they took my money I don't even remember if I had a wa mu account can somebody please help me and tell me how I could get my money back or what do I have to do or who can I talk to about getting my money back I been crying for 4 days now it hard out here rite now for some bank to just take your money like that they took 526.00 dollars from me without me knowing nothing please somebody tell me what can I do about this
#Guest - Says,

Chase just did this same thing to me today, they took every dime I had in my account which was $700 based on a Wamu account that I owe on from 3 years ago! I am a single mother & my rent is due which I can barely pay as it is & I have 4 kids with my twins only being 2 years old, my son 5 & daughter being 7! I just got layed off from work 3 days ago! I cannot stop crying! Please someone help me! Can they do this?
#Jae8888 - Says,

Bank of America took money out of my account. I authorized a credit card company to take money once. They continued to take money from the account and the bank worker stated that there was nothing they could do. We closed that account and opened another...same thing happened. We finally just closed the account and are never to use that bank again.
#sdchargers_63 - Says,

Sometimes if you explain the situation, to the manager of the bank, they would be willing to 'work with you'. Did your bank have some kind of documentation to allow them to debit money? You may want to find this out.
#crazylady - Says,

Starting back in Feb I found out Microsoft was taking money out of my account. I contacted the bank and was told to contact Microsoft and make sure accts was closed. I did this. Same thing happened in Mar and April. Contacted bank and in June same thing again. I was never given money back and the back ruled agaisnt me saying since I at one time had let them use my card for my son's account they could take whatever they wanted. They cut up my card and stopped the card but never refunded the overdraft fees attached to the withdrawals I did not okay. Then they started taking out $7. a day for an automatic withdrawal of a loan that my husband and I had co signed for a friend who died in Oct. I had okayed the withdrawal but wanted the date changed when our ssd came in. From Jan till June they did not charge the $7 but in July and Aug they started. I finally got our acct closed after argueing and fighting. We had our ssd direct deposited to another band starting this Sept. How can this be legal for a bank who we are to trust with our money to worry more about Microsoft and others intstead of the client who has the account?
#jane - Says,

if you have 2 accounts at the same bank and one of them becomes negative can the bank take the money out of the other account without your permission?
#CC - Says,

I think that Chase needs to be sued in there negligence for withdrawing money from your open account and transferring it to a closed account, with no regards for your financial position and/or possible overdraft, which you will then be responsible for. Most financial institutions will not let you open an account with them if you have money owed to them or their subsidiaries. I believe the second chance checking gimmick is one that they use to collect their debt. They point out everything else in their TOA, but they do not point out this fine print. This incident happened to me on today, and I was livid. I asked to speak to a supervisor, because the collection rep stated that they do not do reversal's for collections. After, holding she came back and stated that they would reverse half of the money with payment arrangements for the balance. Which is amazing seeing as prior to...none of the funds could be reveresed. At any rate, once this debt is paid, I will be closing this account and no longer doing business with JP Morgan Chase or any of it's affiliates, they have blatant disregard for customer satisfaction or the welfare of their consumers. I have informed my employer of this incident, and they will be closing their account, as well as my boyfriend and addtnl friends of mine. We need to show them that they need us, more than we need them in this circle of life. Because, I can make money and never put it into an account.
#PS - Says,

If a bank involuntarily takes $$ from one's checking account, does the owner of the checking account have any say as to which past due account within the same bank, the money can be applied?

Is the owner of the checking account responsible for accrued fees, interest, ret.d check fees, etc. which occured because of the bank's involuntary account $$ liquidation? thanks,

#debbiespwen - Says,

can my bank take my tax refund from my checking they hold my mortgage and I have late payments
#Sherry - Says,

My daughter has a credit card acct with NFCU but no bank account so when they call for a pmt if she gave me the money I would authorize them taking it out of my acct. I authorized a pmt in January and in February they took annother pmt without my consent, my daughter gave me the money but I called and told them I did not authorize it and not todo it again. They did it again in March which resulted in bouncing my car insurance ck and charged my a return ck fee. Am getting the run around. What can I do?
#tara livingstone - Says,

we got behind on credit card but made an arrangement topay each month. wehave now won our PPI claim and the bank has requested that we pay all the monies owed. can they do this?
#Christine Ybarra - Says,

If any one would like to get together with me I am going to look into this Chase thing, yesterday they took the last of my money out of my account on an old bank account from 2 years ago, like I told the chase represenitive I would not mind making payment arrangements and have them draft there funky little 200$ out of my account if they would one let me know ahead of time they are going to do this , two when opening the bank account let this be known that this could happen. Basiclly the stole from me. I mean thats what it means right when you take something that belongs to someone else with out notifying them, if this is the way Chase does business I do not want to be an account holder at that bank!!! Christine Ybarra
#sassy - Says,

if i open a checking account at charter bank in i get a 500 loan can they get into my other account at a differnt branch
#KarenJfs - Says,

I called my mortgage in 8/2 and and 8/6 they took it out of my account 8/7 the bank then had a problem with my daughter bank account and froze her but since she was on mine they froze mine and then 8/8 took back my mortgage money and did it to my car insurance but put that back but not my mortgage payment can they do that?
#very upset - Says,

First, the money taken out of my account was not for a loan, but was for a mistake a teller made when she cashed my check. I was give $500.00 over the amount of the check, which I feel I should not be responsible since the teller did not review the check correctly. What is your opinion on this?
#Mike Lighthart - Says,

I cash a chase check at chase for 560.00 .I only have 40.00 in my account.A week after I get a notice Im negative 532.00 because the check was NSF .Why would they cash that check.I call and they said I deposited it I did not .I cash it and walk out with 560.00.There weak liars and pretty much suck
#Ann - Says,

After recieving a good faith offer on a home mortage, it was not right
We said we were not interested. A month later the mortage lender of the bank took $500.00 with out a word or our permission, what can be done about this

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#sharron - Says,

my husband has a chase account n has always had a very good amount in his account just in case a rainy day lol well we just got a notice sayine he owes money the seller wumu and merchant pnb and original creditor pnd anyway my husband has never had a wumu account but has had a chase account for a few years i told him to pullall his money out before they claim they can just do that he say he never had a wumu account its bullshit and they better not touch his money the paper say they wont sue us for debt cause its soo old well how is it old if hes never had an account what should we do?? and mind u hers only one bank for a few ytears and thats chase and hes nver been negative or close to it so were kind of at a lose to this what do we do please help!!!
#sharron - Says,

my husband has a chase account n has always had a very good amount in his account just in case a rainy day lol well we just got a notice sayine he owes money the seller wumu and merchant pnb and original creditor pnd anyway my husband has never had a wumu account but has had a chase account for a few years i told him to pullall his money out before they claim they can just do that he say he never had a wumu account its bullshit and they better not touch his money the paper say they wont sue us for debt cause its soo old well how is it old if hes never had an account what should we do?? and mind u hers only one bank for a few ytears and thats chase and hes nver been negative or close to it so were kind of at a lose to this what do we do please help!!!
#sharron - Says,

sorry bout all the typos anyway hes never had a wumu account only chase it has never been negative or close to it and all of a sudden they claim he owes 4000 how hes never had wumu or been negative in his chase account wat can we do
#cant get rite - Says,

had a WaMu debt back in 2007 that wasnt payed. if i decided to open a checking account with another bank will they try to take my money to pay WaMu old debt
#eusebio - Says,

well then banks shouldnt mind THE FEDERAL-TRADE-COMMISSION come in and investigate the peoples complaints and records....with that the way..FTC loves banks,hefty fines...I bet they'll find something to to fine them with!!
#eusebio - Says,

to thethose banks ..need to be harshly fined specially those involved at those from top of rhe ladder
#spencer - Says,

I am a 17 year old, who recently opened a checking and savings account. I had a job about 6 months ago, and i saved up a couple of thousand dollars. I was forced to quit the job because of a back injury i suffered. Being a minor I couldn't qualify for workmens comp. I was recently forced to spend a majority of the money i had saved on medication and hospital fees. I had $50 dollars left in my savings. The banks monthly service charge was $30. The charge was deducted from my account. This left $20 in my account. Me being 17 and unaware of the banks stipulations, was charged another $25 for having one to many withdrawls. Now I have $-5, and the withdrawl fees the bank charged me over drafted my account. Now I owe the bank over $100 in overdraft fees. Only in America can a Minor work a 50 hour work week for less than minimum wage, pay over %30 in taxes, be forced to pay out of pocket for health care , and finally bankrupt by a bank that does not pay a cent In taxes and has received billions of dollars in bailouts.
#MoneyFROM? - Says,

I married a woman that is fraud as fraud can be,she gets by with the help from professional of her own kind,she was or is still married to a stock broker in Peru,Any way I cant find her she took quarter million from me over 11 yrs-looking thur old statements our account shows she took out $50.00 from HSBC RS How can i find out whats going on I HHave the account number=or perhaps i have an account and dont know about it,she is good friends with 2chase manager.
#Quiose - Says,

You people are walking dead people. The government can take all of your money from your accounts with no permission. Get ready walking dead people. Your going to wake up one morning with no money in your accounts. As for you people with a retirement nest that you worked so hard for your whole life will soon be wiped out! Very soon! You will see! You people are all clowns parading down the street acting so buffoonish thinking that it won't happen. Hey get ready it's going to happen sooner than you think! Mark my words! Oh I forgot I'm talking to the living dead people.
#Quiose - Says,

You people are walking dead people. The government can take all of your money from your accounts with no permission. Get ready walking dead people. Your going to wake up one morning with no money in your accounts. As for you people with a retirement nest that you worked so hard for your whole life will soon be wiped out! Very soon! You will see! You people are all clowns parading down the street acting so buffoonish thinking that it won't happen. Hey get ready it's going to happen sooner than you think! Mark my words! Oh I forgot I'm talking to the living dead people.
#Brandon - Says,

My bank took money out of my business account to fix a personal account and now my business checks are not clearing over this is it legal for them to do that with a business account to fix a personal account
#Brandon - Says,

My bank took money out of my business account to fix a personal account and now my business checks are not clearing over this is it legal for them to do that with a business account to fix a personal account
#Dana - Says,

Capital One took an online (web payment) oit to f husbands checking account...My name is not on his account and his name is not on my Capital One everyone just keeps saying it was "a web payment by Dana" ummmm NOT!
#Dana - Says,

Capital One took an online (web payment) oit to f husbands checking account...My name is not on his account and his name is not on my Capital One everyone just keeps saying it was "a web payment by Dana" ummmm NOT!
#Suman - Says,

The bank took 11k money out of my account against a loan of 4k and after 6years without my permission from a new account opened with the Bank. I am a Single mother who is trying to make ends meet and the money that they took was towards the rent payment of 2 months. And now I am told to evict the house due to non-payment of loan.
I had taken the loan in 2008 and only 2 installments were pending which my ex-husband said would pay and clear it,so, I did not check. But when my PF was deducted from the account I inquired in the bank and was told that it was withdrawn against the outstanding loan payment. So, I thot it has been cleared now and all this happened in 2010. I was told to go to the loan department, and when I asked there they said I do not have any loan account. So I was under the impression that the loan has been cleared altogether.
After so many years this month they deducted 11k from my account and are not even discussing it, as per their statement I am earning well enuf to pay the overcharges.

How can I file a legal complaint against the Bank for doing so.

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Can a bank take money out of your account without your knowledge or permission for overdraft fees that were included in bankruptcy 5 years ago.
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#shirley - Says,

Bank of American, close my account saying that they was a fraud of 888,888,88 on my account, I draw $755.00 a month to live on been up to date with my bills they kept my check which cause me to get behind on my bills I had it set up through bill pay, they paid nothing leaving me $700.00 in the hole. I called them and ask for my money to pay my bills they told me I couldn't get the money until they are finish no matter what I said I couldn't get them to work with me, I ask them to please release my money over and over I am still be hide on bills because of this Bank witch is wrong, I had talk with David, he said he did not have to explain nothing to me, they gave me back 555.00 which, I want to know if I can do something about this I want and need my money to pay my bills. Thank you for your time and if anyone can help me please do so
Shirley Paz

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I am not getting a divorce, but can I legally take 1/2 of our money in the bank and put it in my name only? after 60 years of marriage I have never had any money in my name.
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on february 14 last year, Meetic, who has around 840,000 paying customers in Europe, Registered a 38 per cent increase in people signing up offer other Thursdays in the month, celebrity fad Delpirou.

Keen to woo Paris's singletons with a bit of indulging, Meetic, the chief advertiser in the sector, This year tidy what it calls "institution Boudoir, A vintage 1950s style lorry which serves as a mobile massage and manicure salon on the streets of Paris.

Since last year, The site has also been offering members a range of different ways of finding love, this sort of soirees, dinners, And other suggestions such as cooking or photography workshops.

This valentine's week alone the firm, which will puts on around 100 events every month, Has organized 35 evenings in France.

an additional firm, Lovoo, Says it has seen recent monthly increases in users close to 30 to 40 per cent.

the company, Which were only available in Germany and now has seven million users worldwide, Is largely aimed at the under 30s with 70 per cent of users aged between 18 and 30.

To mark romantic days celebration this year it is inviting women to photoshoots to update and improve their profile photograph "Because it is precisely what counts,

husbands, at the same time, Can benefit from a traditional shave in a barber's chair and some all important internet dating advice.

Stephane Boulissiere of Lovoo said he was not surprised by the increasing numbers turning to online dating, Citing increased use of smartphones and tablets.

But France's economic woes were also seen as an incentive for personals to find a mate.

Faced with financial self deprecation, People see a arrangement as "A safe haven to face daily life, Said Celine Petre of relationship site Parship.

A study published in January by the eDarling website found 63 per cent of single people believed recession was not a hindrance in their quest for love.

on the contrary, "the normal mood gives people strong motivation" To obtain a partner, case study said.

Nearly eight out of ten consider by themselves "In a stronger position to confront the gloom of way of life" As a couple and 75 per cent say that the financial state does not change their search criteria.

"they're betting that the notion of getting established in life is being lost, That nothing is gained at the professional level, And that therefore it is better to base relationships on the human qualities of their russian sexy girls partner, Rather than on there financial stability, understood Sabrina Philippe, A psycho therapist and consultant at eDarling.

"Obviously a lot more crisis, Living as a couple with two incomes can only improve routine, Provided that the income is not the main criteria of members when they use our services, went ahead and added Alexandre Lubot, general manager of Meetic.

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The mission team involved Diane and Erin Venable, jack port Coffey, Hannah Collins then Marilyn van Leeuwen, All of Ventura region.

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Services in Japanese and Spanish are held on Sunday evening. The room is at 1800 South C St. Call 487 2711 to acquire more information.

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Norma Solomon White include the guest speaker at the annual Men and Women's Day Program at Bethel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Oxnard on Sunday.

refined, world president of the Alpha Kappa Alpha sorority, Will speak on the topic of Christ centered men and women getting ready for a new millennium. She is a retired school district owner.

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A front row seat in a quick studies on app based dating was the perfect place for JoAnn Thissen.

Online dating takes a large amount of nerve, And the 68 years old retired marine geologist was working up her courage. She's dabbled on dating online websites and apps, And even asked for a subscription to dating site Match for Christmas. She hasn't had any luck yet, But she's still stimulated.

this is exactly why she was there, Sitting in a Loop hotel among dozens of other attendees interested in crafting the perfect online dating sites profile. There were both women and men, Millennials and middle-agers, Singles and people in romances.

Peak dating season approaches with xmas, And the love lives of tens of thousands of Chicagoans hinge on how sets of rules behind popular dating apps like Tinder, Hinge and Match piece together their data. Even about ten years ago, 1 in 3 partnerships started online, One study recommended, And reliance on dating apps has only increased. Some users fret over creating the perfect profile to rope in the ideal mate. Others work to outsmart the algorithms behind the assistance they use.

"could possibly lot (that is related to) Meeting another person that can't be determined by an algorithm, Thissen discussed. "They take your info and they crunch the numbers and they created something. How do you cause them to uncrunch the numbers,

Great expectationsThat's where Bela Gandhi and Smart Dating Academy accessible in. The date personal instruction company, Which Gandhi recognized in 2009, Hosted the dating app workshop Thissen attended this fall in Chicago Ideas Week.

The changing nature of the colombia lady dating scene has caused Smart Dating Academy to alter how it teaches people to approach dating foreign girls.

Our increasingly digital world has changed expectations, Gandhi mentioned. up to now, She ensured clients' hopes weren't built around Hollywood romances. Now she must preach that online dating isn't quite the same as shopping online.

"our brains are wired, Gandhi agreed. "It's the same as, 'I sent an email to he, I want him directly to arrive to my doorstep with a dozen roses tonight.' It's like an Amazon Prime mindset to mate search,

Flitting caution spans make app dating a delicate dance, Gandhi told the crowd at her crash course.

you've got "with 3 milliseconds" To make a first opinion online, Gandhi these. No air pressure.

One attendee, Kelli Murphy, 35, Said she has noticed how quickly people weary in potential matches. She's not expecting immediate results she's been using dating apps long enough to know that's not realistic but she has crafted her approach based on other users' actions.

"It's best to plan a date within a couple of days or else people will forget about you, Murphy pointed out.

free dating online by the numbersStill, Gandhi loves internet dating and apps. quite a few third of marriages between 2005 and 2012 started online, According to a University of Chicago study commissioned by online dating service eHarmony. Gandhi said that will only increase.

Almost half of us americans are single, Gandhi complained. potential team members are good for digital daters, Especially this period.

Dating season peaks through Dec. 26 and romantic days celebration, According to data from online dating service personals giant Match Group, which may owns Match, Tinder coupled with OkCupid, among others. More than 60 million messages are sent on the Match app in that time, and more than 750,000 dates consider.

Match has dubbed the first Sunday of model year "Dating wednesday" And predicts you might have a 69 percent spike in new singles coming to the app. People resolve to find love in the new year, Gandhi reported.

scenario, All those people clicking and swiping in search of a potential partner are good for the results.

for example, Tinder's third quarter revenues were double what they were the prior year, based on parent company Match's most recent earnings report. That strengthen was driven in part by Tinder Gold, reduced service that 60 percent of Tinder's 4.1 million users enroll in. Match also bought a 51 percent stake in Hinge earlier this year. Facebook is looking to cash in too, Rolling out a dating service in some cities.

But there is really an underbelly to the technology, Gandhi says. For even better or worse, People expect to be able to plug exactly who they want into an algorithm and have that person in no time.

"the pain is, People think they know what they need, But they don't know what they actually need, Gandhi these.

'Thus begins algorithmic dating'In for starters, online dating sites was not built on algorithms. Match got its start in 1995 with online personal ads. Singles searched the actual site's active profiles to find a match.

Then came the internet dating era in the 2000s. Psychologists and self help gurus got behind big online dating services. "dr.

"the was: 'You don't know what you desire; You have no idea of. product,for the air conditioning marry the wrong person. Let us solve that for your health,' " supposed Sam Yagan, The Chicago based co organizer of OkCupid. "Thus begins algorithmic dating,

OkCupid used data otherwise when it launched in 2004, Yagan described. Its approach was less about narrowing it down to one soulmate and more about making sure dates weren't a waste of time.

How the methods work can be a mystery to users, And they can change warning. idaho based Hinge, as an example, Got its start pairing users with friends of myspace friends, But last summer it ditched the call to log in with a Facebook account.

Match introduced a rating system for users in 2010 that gathers data on customers that the app's algorithm can study from, celebrity fad Dushyant Saraph, v. p,second in command of product at Match Group.

"We aren't trying to solve for marriages or predicting who is going to fall in love with whom, Saraph said in an email. "But putting two people in front of each other that will strike up a conversation on the app is something we can clearly measure,

Algorithms learn from users' taste. They gather data on users and how they communicate, And calculate which profiles look in feeds or as matches. If a user tends not to engage with people with tattoos, The app may stop showing that person people with tattoos, for example.

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