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sdchargers_63

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Posted on Thu Nov 27, 2008 6:25 am  

I read your post, MARY. Did I misunderstand you, ...the Rebate is available ONLY to those who make $75,000 and up, per year?? I thought the govenment was going by the same 'guidelines' as the last one. Wanna say hello to everyone......haven't been on this forum in a while.
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Posted on Sat Nov 29, 2008 2:03 am  

SD I think that was a typo. The first round of stimulus payments were for anyone who made $300 or more.
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Posted on Sat Nov 29, 2008 2:53 am  

Has anyone heard about the second 'package' coming out? I've heard very little...just that a second one is in the process of.
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Posted on Sat Nov 29, 2008 3:00 am  

I have not heard anything new on this second stimulus, sure could use something like this though. Everything I read so far has had nothing in it for the working joe period.
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Posted on Sat Nov 29, 2008 2:50 pm  

Hopefully something will be done for those who are struggling..........instead of giving all of these 'tax breaks' to people that don't need them.
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Posted on Sat Nov 29, 2008 3:56 pm  

I agree. I hear there is a stimulus but it is money that is for each state to do programs like education and jobs. Its not a per individual type of thing. I agree I hope if there is another stimulus it also includes the working class making up to $75 000. People do not seem to relize that these people have bills to and just because they may make a little more does not meant they do not feel the economic impact. They may have a higher mortgage because they own a more expensive home, car payments and they are use to being able to pay with out having to cut back necessity. People seem to see a dollar amount and say "they do not need it: to me thats discrimaination. I can only imageine what those people pay out for medical and other things since they would not qualify for any type of free funding.
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Posted on Thu Dec 04, 2008 5:23 am  

I see your point, FIREYONE...................however, just because these people make $75,000 per year, din't mean they had to buy a extremely expensive house, or a pool ,or 3 cars, etc. ( I think you get my point). NOW...these SAME people are losing their homes, pools, cars, etc. What about those living on the street? ..with no income at all? It's like the General Motors CEO's coming in with their private jets and saying, "please bail me out." If they SOLD their jets, they would have the money.
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Posted on Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:27 pm  

SD trying not to argue here but we make that amount of money. My house payment alone is $700..all it I have is a doublewide on top of a foundation..its was expensive because off construction costs being through the roof. I also own three vehicles and none are new. Why three you may ask...well hubby and I both needed vehicles to get to work and the third one is an ancient old truck we have to keep to plow out the driveway and haul logs,shell and what not with out ruining the other two. We also have the high insurance on these vehicles,which I am sure someone will appreciate down the line if we ever wreck into them..Plus we don't want an accident to happen and then get sued and lose our home. Now add on Medical, school lunches,gas, fuel for heating,taxes,...it really adds up. The money amount may seem like a lot but once you take out all your monthly bills house, car payment, elecrtic, phone and so on and then groceries,medical insurances...you will see there really isn't much left. I bnet in co-pays for medical alone we dish out almost $200. Plus we are taxed a t a very high rate. It really isn't as easy as it appears when looking at the number.
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Posted on Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:52 am  

I sure understand your point, FIERYONE. By the time you DO pay bills, or 'catch up' on them, there's nothing left. When I received the $300.00, this went toward bills....not shopping like the governement was hoping it would.
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Posted on Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:34 am  

I have to laugh at that when I hear it on the news and elsewhere to. They say we need to spend more and get the economy going..How..I do like you bills bills and the higher prices. I hear though that groceriy prices will be coming down in Jan. because they can start basing their prices on the gas surcharges paid last quarter. This will be a good thing so people do not have to rely on charging the basice necessities and paying the higher interest rates on the card they are using. A lot more people also use their credit cards for medicine...doubt that price will ever come down.
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Posted on Sat Dec 06, 2008 4:29 am  

We are in that $75,000 window and I have to say that it makes me sick to see how much we are paying in taxes. The only reason we are there at that income bracket is because my husband works tons of overtime. It is NOT a choice, if he does not go out, the compressors go down, gas is not pushed and everyone loses. It is not a choice, there are times he is out till 2 or 3 in the morning and right back up at 6 am and heads out again to put in another long day. It is really hard on his health also.

He got a $1500 bonus the other day, this is once a year, he cleared $800 out of that. I think that is just wrong! all taxes, almost 50 %.

I work fulltime. I am also a 70% disabled veteran. I could be completely disabled, but my work ethic is strong enough for me to get out of bed everyday and still go to work to deal with people who are just plain lazy and have the idea that someone else is supposed to take care of them. Yeah right. I am thoroughly disgusted, I am really debating my own situation. Why not. I can file for completed disability through the veterans administration and be completely tax free. Yeah, I would quit working but I would be so far ahead, my income then would be tax free. I could sit at home and whine everyday about what the government owes me, since my health issues are service connected and we would actually get back a ton more on our income tax.

I am going to a rheumatologist in January, if I can get the right information down on paper I am going to ride that train the whole way to Egypt, the hell with it, My family is really sick of paying everyones way just because our jobs make us put in the necessary overtime.

And yeah, I DESERVE a stimulus! Because if it wasn't for fools like us, there would not be money in the tax base to pay for any stimulus and we will be paying for it well into the future.
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Posted on Sat Dec 06, 2008 3:32 pm  

Here,Here GN...I am glad someone else backs my theory. I have a hubby that works over,overtime. Not a decision, a company rule. When we recieve any bonus they are taxed in the same way. It does make a person really sick. I have complained that these taxes on us are outrageous. If you take a look at all the money they take off someone in that tax bracket, well you are doing no better than the guy below you. Your just working your ass off to pay more taxes. The main reason my hubby has this job is the medical benefits..then they were going to try to tax those!! Where does it end? Of courswe we deserve a second stimulus..its probaly us just getting some of our own money back.
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Posted on Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:37 am  

I guess my big problem is that I see how much of it is pumped out every week into the pockets of those who need to just get off their rear ends and do it themselves.

The program just bought another car for someone this week, he was on the back porch saying he was going to buy his car, I told him that the vehicle was not meant for joy riding, it was for work. As a tax payer, that I think that should be the only purpose for the car. He called in that week needing gas money to get to his community service.

You see, I am not real sure why you would waste my tax dollars on a car for someone who just failed a urine test in the pre employment interview physical. He is obviously not job ready if he has drug issues.

I give it a few weeks, the car will be worthless, engine blown, wrecked, something, way it always go and he will expect another one.

I hate seeing this crap weekly. Wouldn't be bad if they actually took all the help and became a productive citizen and help out instead of being a tax burden. I get really frustrated with the whole system sometimes.
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Posted on Sun Dec 07, 2008 2:16 pm  

GN...yes, I see what you mean. Single mom, work full time, serve in the military.....very stressful sometimes. I, too, am tired of seeing people 'work the system'. I've talked to several Vets who say, " uncle Sam owes me, so this is what I'm gonna do. let everyone ELSE 'pay my way." Those who say this are those who CAN get out of bed and work if they choose to. They say they "hurt too much to do this or that." However...........they go running every other day, sort-of-thing. I'm not saying there ARE people that are TRULY disabled. A couple, who lives in the apt complex, I live in..........they have a baby, they don't work ( they can if they want to). SHE quit her job. HE "refuses" to look for one. HE can't drive..no drivers license. They are BOTH around my age..44 years old. They don't have a car. Basically..their attitudes are, "if the Governement wants us to pay our bills, THEY ( the Government) will pay them for us." I just don't get people like this. ALSO.......I wanna say to you, GN....God Bless ya!!
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Posted on Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:25 pm  

This is the reasons those people do not work. I think there should be a whole lot more than just hading money out so freely. The should have to keep a gas and mileage log as to where they even take the vehicle. I mean after hundreds of miles and still no job that would seem a little fishy to me. I also think the welfare stsyem needs a complete over haul. They should have some way for these people to give back to the community that supports them. I was at a Christmas party of my hubbys work last night and this very pregnant women sat across form me. Her "husband" (not legally) was bragging about the big screen and everything else he blows his check on and I asked "how can you afford it with 4 kids and one on the way. The answer? "My wife gets disability and a check for each child a month". The trailor was bought for her by the government years ago ..so NO rent. The reason for her disabilty was her back...do you know what your back goes through having kids and carrying them around for 9 months...if it can take that..it can take an 8 hour day.

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