Retired and cant pay credit cards. Should I wait for their

Submitted by Swen on Sat, 06/12/2010 - 21:40
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Hi all,

I have been reading this forum for a while with keen interest. Its obvious you folks know your stuff and I appreciate you taking a look at my issues. A sincere thanks for any response. I sure appreciate it.

I am 67 and considered by SS to be retired. I was on SS disability (heart) since 2000. In 2007 I lost my Long Term Disability payment from my company because I reached 65. Now that is all I get. SS has kept my benefit the same as dis. was (take home $1950/mo, but lost $2500/mo additional from the company.

I have chatted with several lawyers and their overall opinion is to just not pay the three cards I have. I am living with my daughter/gkids and have agreed to pay for some food, cable, remodeled the basement ($8000 from 401k now empty) and other bills. I have had a serious heart condition for years. 5 heart attacks and 17 angioplasty's since 1985. Also several surgery's. I can't work.

These attorney's felt that if I wasn't concerned about my credit score (845) any more, other than telephone calls, nothing would happen. I only have the ss payment going into my debit account. They said filing bankruptcy would cost and nothing different would come of it.

Because $450 a month goes to cc, I am without money by the end of the month, and buy a little food with my cc. And that keeps getting me deeper in debt.

Card Balances
Chase Visa $11,000
Commerce Bank Visa $3150
Bank of America Visa $4897

One attorney told me I was foolish to have taken a loan on my small life insurance policy to pay some of the debt. Now I get interest charges from the life ins co that I can't pay either. So it just draws down the cash value/benefit left which will last for about 4 more years.

My questions are

Can I not send payments this month and just wait for the calls?
What can I say to the cc companys other than I can't pay?
I don't have to give any details, do I?
A judgment just means I owe the debt, but doesn't make me pay?
If I die, the debt goes away. My beneficiaries (kids) can't be attacked?
I was told that they can't take my ss benefit. Is that correct?

That's about it. Sorry to go in and on. Thought your opinions would help me reduce the stress that I feel now. I really mismanaged my money the last 10 years.

Thanks again,

Swen
Chicagoland

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Hi Swen,

Welcome to this community :)

Last question first

where did that pic of the gal come from on my above post.

This picture is called the avatar. Until you upload your own picture (anything that you like), this avatar changes each time you reload this page. The avatars are not gender specific. So, the picture of a girl had appeared on your above post. The next time you see it, it will change into some other avatar :)

Well, now coming to your queries.

Can I not send payments this month and just wait for the calls?

Can I know if you are talking about the collection calls? If you wait for the collection calls, then you are wrong. If you miss the payments, interest charges, and late fees will get added on to the existing balance. Then if the account gets handed over to a collection agency, you will be harassed by their calls. Thus, it is better to consolidate all your debts into one, and pay those off. In debt consolidation the interest rate is lowered, and you have to make a single monthly payment. It is much better to deal with your creditors than the collectors.

What can I say to the cc companys other than I can't pay?

and

I don't have to give any details, do I?

You need to send them letters, mentioning that you are willing to make payments, but is facing problem due to financial hardship. You will have to attach your monthly income and expenditure along with the letter.

A judgment just means I owe the debt, but doesn't make me pay?

A judgment means you owe the debt, and you will have to pay off the debt, that is satisfy the judgment. If you don't pay the judgment amount, the judgment may get renewed.

If I die, the debt goes away. My beneficiaries (kids) can't be attacked?

When you die, your children may not be directly held responsible for your debts. However, the creditors can go after any estate money or property. Now, if any of these are handed over to your children by you, they may have to deal with your creditors.

I was told that they can't take my ss benefit. Is that correct?

Yes, this is true that they can't take your Social Security benefit. However, you will have to declare this to your bank that all your money comes from Social Security. You will also have to notify this to your creditors.

Thanks,

Aaron

Mon, 06/14/2010 - 09:40 Permalink

Thanks for the welcome Aaron. Appreciate your response. I have been reading all of your posts and the other folks in this community and am gaining insight into my situation. Thanks all.

I am 15 days from my first default with the 3 cards. So it is the original card companies. Live in Illinois.

I'd add that I really don't have anything left other than a bed, tv, 9mm, computer and a drawing table. I am fortunate to have a wonderful daughter and 2 gkids that let me live with them.

Looking forward to a judgment, other than publicly stating that I owe the money, what else can the judge do? SS is my only income and at my age, credit score means nothing.

Of course I fee bad that it has come to this, but I see no way to pay. I have to keep my health insurance and other needed expenses to live up to date.

Thanks again,

Swen

Mon, 06/14/2010 - 16:24 Permalink

Hi Swen,

I understand the problem that you are in. Still, if possible you can try to consolidate your debts. As I have said, in debt consolidation all your debts are consolidated into a single account. Thus, you will have to make a single monthly payment. Thus, it becomes quite easy to pay off your debts.

Hope that this will help.

Regards,

Aaron

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Stop choosing Gods name in vain. i am just a Ukrainian. And yes I was too abused by mom and dad, Beating your kids since are angry is not a disipline. while using Bible you are to never punish you child in anger. I now have my own children and I am proud to say that I will not ever abuse my children. You have to keep in mind that your child is a gift from God and you are to take extra care until it is time to meet with your maker. When you receive an expensive gift from the sufferer will you ever throw it around and beat it. step on it, No you address it as if it is your most prized possetion. Why should a child be any different. Child beeting (so named by many spanking) Or abuse truly tolarated. My childred have never been spanked plus they're always on their best behaviour. Always respectful to my spouse and i, rrn no way disobeying. We always sit down and discuss with them their day what has happend and guide them in the right path of righteousness. As a survior of abusive childhood I refuse to suspect that using spanking or beeting is a form of disipline. you should have a loving child if you just raise them with correct attitude and encouragement. Also stop using Gods name as a defend. Positive attutude and practices always will russian women be over negative beeting and verbal abuse. God did not direct us to abuse our kids or as many say disipline in a loving invironment. Most of not often covered follow the old testament, Why take one verse that gives you advantage on childre and use hate as if come from the Bible. The old testament directs us if you disobey one part of the law you carry disobeyed the whole law. My question to you hypocrates is how many of you pick and choose what gives you advantage and do not pay attention to the parts that do not. No where in the new testament will you ever find to phisically punish the child. How ever new testament does tell us that my people are dying because of lack of information. What happed to this Ukrainian family is unfortunate because they have died years ago when the stopped obeing Gods commandments. Maybe when they are serving their sentance they will have planty of time to repent and step on the road of righteousness and end the madness of child abuse. What the Judge should have done is sentansed them to 7 years of presenting why child abuse is wrong and have them attend seminars talking about what they did was wrong.

Valentina may 2, 2010 4:24 pm (pacific cycles time)

editor, Please post my provide feedback. Why did you post it last time?

Why does america weep for God's help when tragedies like 911 strike, But do not live by his word? Discipline the children to set them on the right track.

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