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coffeebean



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Subject: Election Day
 
Posted on Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:10 am  

Hello, I wanted to recieve some feedback on the candidates running for presidency. What talk is there about economics, equal rights, home ownership, assistence programs, and the war. I hear the folks talk lots about this and that but just want the basic facts not the cut throat talk they use towards each other to get votes. I have done research but its all intertwined and I am not sure what to believe!
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Posted on Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:09 pm  

In an election year it is hard to believe any of them, they sure do make a lot of promises, but then when they get into the position they do not for some reason follow through. I think once they take the seat they can fight for all they want to, but it takes votes from congress to get things passed, so they are more or less out of luck if they don't have congress on their side.

I don't even pay attention to them during the election campaign, they are just puppets at this point and puppets when they get into office too. They may push for things to happen and pray that it does so they don't look bad to the american people. The american people are used to this though, it has been going on forever, so if you are going to vote, look for the ones that talk about what you care about, at least you know that they have that interest in mind, does not always mean it will happen, but at least you know, they are thinking it. It is all political.
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Posted on Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:57 pm  

given past experiance no one is perfect but if you pay close attention the best one to vote for will be the one who avoids degradeing the other candidates. all of those people running are in some type of government business check out what they have done in thier prior jobs. talk to a lot of differant people but dont let them sway you on your choice you have to live with it. as for me im still undecided but cut out one just for the nasty remarks, if you check out thier past they all have ghost in thier closets or they wouldnt be human.
erb1953



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Posted on Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:04 am  

I too am undecided, I have not really paid much attention to any of them to any of them. I get tired of hearing them bad mouth each other and make promises that they are not going to keep.

Good luck, with your decision coffeebean, I can not advise you either way, they are good till they get into office, LOL.
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Posted on Fri Jan 18, 2008 9:46 am  

Coffeebean,

Frankly speaking being a 24years old I am still confused when it comes to the elections. I really dont know who to believe. The promises made are the same, just languages are a little varied to avoid confusion. people who are foul mouthing to gain vote does not seem right to me. I am utterly disgusted with this whole procedure. Need to do a bit more of research.
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Posted on Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:51 pm  

It starts with ideology. The cut and dry is:

If you prefer government interference in economic matters, but not personal (often moral) matters, you're a liberal. If you prefer government interference in personal matters, but not economic, you're a conservative. A populist favors government intervention in both areas, and a libertarian opposes government intervention in both.

On a personal note, I "like" Obama and McCain.

What each candidate represents to me:

McCain: Honesty ("Those manufacturing jobs aren't coming back")

Romney: Dishonesty ("I'll fight to bring those jobs back..." Though the statement may be truthful, it is misleading at best. Outsourcing has become a way of life, and the automakers are doing all they can to avoid the unions when opening new plants)

Huckabee: Fool (Caught in a Bill Clinton backlash, as Gov. of Arkansas, he granted clemency to a convicted felon--at the behest of republicans...the felon later sexually assaulted and killed a woman)

Clinton: The one candidate I am having a hard time reading, but I cannot believe that she actually represents change...experience, yes; judgment, perhaps. Change, no.

Obama: Change (I'll elaborate on this...perhaps tomorrow)

Edwards: I haven't really studied him yet...I may not, as his candidacy looks to be in jeopardy; not enough support

Giuliani: W # 2 (He should change his name to 9/11...sadly, a number of survivors and cleanup volunteers of that horrific day continue to be plagued with terrible maladies. Government assistance is not as forthcoming as it should be. Also, far too hawkish in prosecuting the "war on terror")

Thompson: Unqualified (he's been out of Congress for a number of years, and his experience as a federal prosecutor was limited)


These are just my opinions...do what you want with them.
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Posted on Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:37 pm  

In practice, there are often many similarities between candidates from opposing parties.

I seem to recall that the republican "contract with America" was largely a repackaging of democratic ambitions, and Clinton's welfare reform was a longstanding republican goal.
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Posted on Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:12 am  

I like the way you produced your views. There is no shame in being blatant when you know are speaking the truth. Anybody can bring in changes be it McCain, Romney, Huckabee, Clinton, Obama but what is needed is the willingness to do so, the power and integrity. I doubt how far they will be able to progress given the fact that they are just puppets at the hands of the government.
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Posted on Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:53 pm  

You got it Laura, anyone who ends up in office is exactly that a puppet of the government, they don't get to make decisions, they can run their chops all they want to but it goes to vote at congress and if the old men on the hill don't agree they vote it down and it does not happen.

I am surprised to see that they are all agreeing on this economic stimulus plan that I see everybody talking about on the other forums. It will benefit the government or they would not be doing it. However, I am very happy about it because it will put a few dollars back in the working man's hands for a change.

I am also glad to see that they are stepping up to the plate and helping out with this mortgage crisis, there are so many people that are at risk of losing their homes because of the inflated rise in the variable rate.

So I guess now they are just cleaning up the mess they made, they really need to do something about these ridiculous fuel and gas prices, that would be a major relief to a lot of people, they are going through the roof and continue to keep going up. It is nice.
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Posted on Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:55 pm  

Hey morningstar, great post, I just reread it again, you put it right out there, LOL. Can't wait to see your follow up on this one.
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Posted on Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:49 pm  

I am confused there is no good canidate according to all the debates.I think everyone better pay close attention and get out and vote we definately dont need hillary, theres too much deciet there.I thought huckebee sounded like he might be ok, but he is in the rear. are any of you following the debates?
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Posted on Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:50 pm  

I am confused there is no good canidate according to all the debates.I think everyone better pay close attention and get out and vote we definately dont need hillary, theres too much deciet there.I thought huckebee sounded like he might be ok, but he is in the rear. are any of you following the debates?
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Posted on Tue Jan 22, 2008 9:15 am  

yes i followed the Obama debate. I think things are pretty warmed up now
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Posted on Tue Jan 22, 2008 1:15 pm  

I'd like to thank everyone for the time to reply to this it really helps to hear from those who follow candidates closely. Unfortunately, I lack the time and knowledge to really understand what is said sometimes but am trying to learn as much as I can. I took a poitical sociology class and it was the best thing I could have done, I do not a professor who can teach that controversal class and please the students from both sides. Morningstar your blog really helped please keep in touch with updates. Everyone get out there and vote.
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Posted on Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:56 pm  

Oh coffeebean, those college professors, they are each and every one of them, one of a kind. I remember in college there was one who called himself, "walks with trees" get real.

Some of them try to live back in the 60's, they have young impressionable brains in there hands, that is scary to me. Drives me insane.

Please just be your own person, take into consideration what you value most, not what some one tries to push on you. You are young but you are an intelligent being that can make decision when the right information is put in front of you. Just gather what you can and listen to what they have to say, they will eventually eliminate themselves when they open their mouths, LOL. Really, just learn what you can and make a decision from there.

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